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“I Probably Shouldn’t Have Touched Consciousness” | Roger Penrose

22:18 4/19/2026 Theories of Everything🇮🇱 Subtitled

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Sir Roger Penrose recounts his largest mistake to Curt Jaimungal. Full video with Sir Roger Penrose here: https://youtu.be/iO03t21xhdk. Today’s video is sponsored by Suno. Try it today...

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כנראה שלא הייתי צריך לגעת בתודעה" | רוג'ר פנרוז

"כנראה שלא הייתי צריך לגעת בתודעה" – הווידוי המרתק של סר רוג'ר פנרוז, חתן פרס נובל לפיזיקה ואחד המדענים המוערכים ביותר בדורנו, בשיחה פתוחה עם קורט ג'יימונגל. בסרטון זה, פנרוז חוזר לאחת ההחלטות השנויות במיוחד במחלוקת בקריירה המפוארת שלו: הניסיון לפענח את חידת התודעה האנושית בכלים של פיזיקה קוונטית. עבור פנרוז, שעבד לצד גדולי עולם כמו סטיבן הוקינג ותרם תרומות מכרעות להבנת חורים שחורים ותורת היחסות הכללית, הכניסה לשדה המוקשים של מדעי המוח והתודעה נחשבה בעיני רבים בקהילה המדעית כ"טעות גדולה" או כהרפתקה מסוכנת מדי. התיאוריה המרכזית שפנרוז פיתח יחד עם ד"ר סטיוארט המרוף, המכונה Orchestrated Objective Reduction (או בקיצור Orch OR), טוענת שהתודעה איננה תוצר של חישוב אלגוריתמי מורכב במוח (כמו במחשב), אלא נובעת מתהליכים קוונטיים המתרחשים בתוך מבנים זעירים בתאי העצב הנקראים "מיקרוטובולים". גישה זו קוראת תיגר על המוסכמות המדעיות המודרניות ומציעה שהבנת המוח דורשת פיזיקה חדשה לחלוטין, כזו שטרם גילינו. פנרוז מסביר בשיחה מדוע הוא בחר לעסוק בנושא כה חמקמק, ומה היו ההשלכות של הצעד הזה על המוניטין המדעי שלו ועל האופן שבו עמיתיו תופסים את עבודתו. מעבר לצד המדעי, הסרטון מספק הצצה נדירה לנפשו של גאון המרהר בקריירה שלו בפרספקטיבה של זמן. פנרוז משתף בתחושת החרטה, או אולי באירוניה, שמלווה את העיסוק בתודעה – נושא שרבים רואים בו את "הגבול האחרון" של המדע, אך כזה שגורר לעיתים קרובות הרמת גבה מצד הממסד השמרני. השיחה עם קורט ג'יימונגל (מהפודקאסט Theories of Everything) צוללת לעומק הדינמיקה שבין גילויים פורצי דרך לבין הביקורת הנוקבת שספג פנרוז על כך שהעז לחרוג מתחומי הפיזיקה הטהורה אל עבר המסתורין של הקיום האנושי. לצפייה בסרטון המלא עם סר רוג'ר פנרוז: https://youtu.be/iO03t21xhdk. הסרטון של היום בחסות Suno. נסו אותו היום...

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